[May 27, 2025] What the Right Gets Wrong About Men (w/ Toby Buckle)

The Trumpist right has a very clear picture of what they imagine masculinity to be, and are quite upset that it’s not a picture all men find all that appealing. It’s one of violence, belligerence, and professions of heavy labor. Anything else, including the whole of the knowledge economy that has made the developed world rich, is inauthentically masculine, the result of corrupting feminization.

As someone who earns his living communicating ideas, and is pretty happy doing so, I find their argument unpersuasive. So too, I find the politics of reaction, exclusion, and domination that accompany that argument quite a bit less desirable than a free and open and liberal society.

That’s what my guest and I discuss today. Toby Buckle is the host of the Political Philosophy Podcast, an excellent show that explores the intersection of politics and ideas. We talk about what men want, whether the story the right tells has any grounding in reality, the fundamentally adolescent nature of far-right masculinity, and how liberals can better pitch finding meaning in a liberal world.

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I am just going to copy and paste this from bluesky to try and get a convenient going. You can yell at me if that’s annoying.

One of the many things I have been chewing over is why there doesn’t seem to be a similar discourse around what makes a women despite the “real man” discourse lasting literal millennia. I suspect the reason is the same reason that transphobes are always like “what is a woman” and not is a man. Femininity is a trap to escape and masculinity a trap to aspire to. I don’t exactly have a great theory for why that is though beyond maybe status? Maybe something to do with reproduction being cheap vs costly?

I’m not well-read enough in feminist theory to know if this is correct, but I’d suspect some of it is that, until quite recently on the historical stage, women were basically designed agency. So a woman was whatever men/male society/patriarchy defined a woman to be, and women had little opportunity to transgress that definition, except on the social margins.

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Men also had to justify their status, I imagine.